Curse

Levi Garett · Apr 12, 2006, 05:41 PM // 17:41

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Originally Posted by Susan Summers

I've never done this but is it still worth it? i understand IDS have dropped in price alot since christmas.

I sold one yesterday for 18k another for 20k.

If you get one IDS every 2 hours your on pace with a good 55 farmer (10k/hour-about what I make in gold/mats + rares).

Texas Snyper · Apr 13, 2006, 02:38 AM // 02:38

if you're using W/Me, then what about mantra of frost? it reduces the dmg and gives u energy everytime ur hit. would mantra of frost be better or worse than elemental resistance in terms of dmg reduction?

just call me jimmy · Apr 13, 2006, 06:09 AM // 06:09

i would drop watch yourself and put, (I Will Survive). Rust problem solved O_O

Texas Snyper · Apr 13, 2006, 07:25 AM // 07:25

what conditions do the ice imps/golems give you?

kvndoom · Apr 13, 2006, 09:03 AM // 09:03

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Originally Posted by Texas Snyper

if you're using W/Me, then what about mantra of frost? it reduces the dmg and gives u energy everytime ur hit. would mantra of frost be better or worse than elemental resistance in terms of dmg reduction?

Worse. Been tried, been posted.

Demon Rebel · Apr 13, 2006, 01:19 PM // 13:19

Thanks for the Thread People!

I grabbed a HoD helm and equipped the skills after changing back to a W/Me and jumped in a group for my first shot at the run and except for no drops and a Horrible Horrible spawn (Avicara mixed with Trolls and Imps at the mouth of the cave) we didn't do to bad...

Who ever wants to know the difference of running north or heading due east - lets just say its shorter and you can practice on that first set of Imps and Golem.

The only really slow going I had on the 3 runs I did was when I tried to kill a Siege Golem with my only 2 attack skils - Severe Artery and Gash... yeah I will not bring that combo again.

I am tempted to go back to the Axe because conditions like bleeding do serious damage - I just have less maintence with the axe. Most likely I will just play with my skills.

*crosses fingers* I just hope I get more drops then 40 frigid hearts next time.

~Demon

Thanks again for the build it took about 10 minutes to get a friend setup with a similar build - so just follow the directions and have some running experience and this is a no brainer!

Renown Glory · Apr 13, 2006, 04:31 PM // 16:31

Wouldnt this work better for armor:

Helms (as stated by kvn)
Plate/Wyvern chest (w/ sup vigor)
Plate/Wyvern leggings
Plate/Wyvern gauntlets (w/ minor swordsmanship)
Ascalon/Knights Boots (w/ sup absorb)

I believe that this would put you at max dmg reduction w/ ur armor/ -5 armor alone, -7 w/ CCS(stances), -8 w/ CCS(hexed), -10 w/ uber shield (-2, -3)

then u got ur ele resist on top of that

Demon Rebel · Apr 13, 2006, 06:58 PM // 18:58

I can't remember what the original armor setup that was recommended but I will tell you what I use:

15k all the way:

Gladiators Chest - Sup Absorption
Gladiators Gloves - Minor Sword (will change this back to Min. Strength or Axe)
Gladiators Leggings - Minor Tactics
Ascalon Boots - Sup Vigor

My helms I use:
HoD Liutenants Helm for running to the Cave.
Droks Strength Helm w/ Sup Strength (+4 Strength)

My Shields I use:
Crimson Carapace Shield 16(9 str) -2(stance) +45hp (stance)
Crimson Carapace Shield 16(9 str) -3(while hexed) +60hp (while hexed)

Att Points:
15 Strength (11 + 4)
12 Tactics (11 + 1)
8 sword or axe (not including any rune)
3 Inspiration

Swords or Axe:
The sword I used last night has a +6 vs Ele damage (shocking and barbed hilts)
Axes both have +7 vs Ele damage (Furious 10/9 and Shocking)

This works Perfect! (at least for me)

Sorry about reposting the build over and over again... but this is my running armor and it works fantastic for this build... no issues so far.

btw... if you can do the droks run running through the Avicara should be easy for you.

Sagura Kagurake · Apr 13, 2006, 11:53 PM // 23:53

Just asking, sorry if its been posted, whats the point of the zealous mod? Why would you have energy problems the only skill that req energy is mes skill, which is only 10 energy like every 40 sec. I just dont see why zealous is needed.

Demon Rebel · Apr 14, 2006, 01:04 PM // 13:04

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Originally Posted by Sagura Kagurake

Just asking, sorry if its been posted, whats the point of the zealous mod? Why would you have energy problems the only skill that req energy is mes skill, which is only 10 energy like every 40 sec. I just dont see why zealous is needed.

Its not needed at all... unless there is something special about the Ice Beast that needs a zealous mod... but thats not the case.

irohit · Apr 15, 2006, 05:25 AM // 05:25

is it possible to solo ice imps with a W/mo without ele resistace?

Murder In China · Apr 15, 2006, 06:05 AM // 06:05

It's possible to solo Ice Imps with a pure warrior skill bar. So yes.

irohit · Apr 15, 2006, 01:21 PM // 13:21

can someone help me with this farming...i tried both W/Mo and W/Me...i can do the run (easy if u know the pattern)....then when i get to the cave, i get owned by the troll..please help :P

Demon Rebel · Apr 15, 2006, 02:18 PM // 14:18

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Originally Posted by irohit

can someone help me with this farming...i tried both W/Mo and W/Me...i can do the run (easy if u know the pattern)....then when i get to the cave, i get owned by the troll..please help :P

The trolls can make it difficult - what I do is generally wait until the troll is closest to me and then I hit him with my long bow to pull the group.

After pulling the group, I've been hit with "Mind Freeze" already... I try to walk away from the group- the imps all have ranged attacks and obviously the trolls don't. This pulls the troll in close to me and if you have the cave wall or that hump in the ground in front of the wall you can avoid getting hit by roughly 90% of the imp attacks by just positioning yourself on the other side of the hill or wall (they can't attack you through the walls and I don't think they can hit you with Mind Freeze either).

If I can position myself properly I don't need Ele resitance and I can hack away at the troll until its dead then put my stance on and go.

!Always have Dolyaks Signet Running!
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2 Trolls:

With two trolls and no cave walls or hill in the way - keep ER up because the imps will tear you limb from limb - the way I take care of the trolls first is by running a furious 10/9 axe and keeping Dolyak Sig up as well as Watch Yourself. If Your going to heal make sure you've looked at both Trolls and watch for Disrupting Chop. Healing Sig is quick enough you can get it in and finished before they finish doing disrupting chop.

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2 Trolls and an Siege Ice Golem = Death ... or very very long and interruptable healing.

Hope thats of some help to ya.

Demon

Winstar · Apr 15, 2006, 08:45 PM // 20:45

With the following I don't have any trouble with Trolls or really anything else up there

Galrath Slash
Desperation Blow
Defy Pain
Watch Yourself
Dolyak Sig
Healing Sig
Ele Res
Sprint

I find after you get comfortable with the run that charge is unecessary so that frees up an elite. When in tough against trolls and seige ice in any combo just keep your defy pain up and use the hex sheild since u will be rusted etc. You have tonnes of life and an additiona 20 armour from defy pain so you take very little damage and don't really need to cast the healing sig till the troll/trolls are dead. once they are u aren't taking any damage from anything and won't be interrupted so you can take all day to cast it if u need before smashing any seige ice's that may be present.

In general this is build (which I give full credit to the designers for, mad props)seems to be good for smashing most thigns in mineral springs. Giants/Trolls/Seige Ice/Imps/Shadows/Avicara brave and fierce

Demon Rebel · Apr 15, 2006, 09:42 PM // 21:42

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Originally Posted by Winstar

With the following I don't have any trouble with Trolls or really anything else up there

Galrath Slash
Desperation Blow
Defy Pain
Watch Yourself
Dolyak Sig
Healing Sig
Ele Res
Sprint

I find after you get comfortable with the run that charge is unecessary so that frees up an elite. When in tough against trolls and seige ice in any combo just keep your defy pain up and use the hex sheild since u will be rusted etc. You have tonnes of life and an additiona 20 armour from defy pain so you take very little damage and don't really need to cast the healing sig till the troll/trolls are dead. once they are u aren't taking any damage from anything and won't be interrupted so you can take all day to cast it if u need before smashing any seige ice's that may be present.

In general this is build (which I give full credit to the designers for, mad props)seems to be good for smashing most thigns in mineral springs. Giants/Trolls/Seige Ice/Imps/Shadows/Avicara brave and fierce

Geez! Now thats a Ton of Armor and a Tank if I've ever heard of one.

I am gonna have to give that a whirl!!

blahblahblah5038 · Apr 15, 2006, 11:03 PM // 23:03

where is this that you can farm that good?

holy crap that's awesome

Winstar · Apr 15, 2006, 11:33 PM // 23:33

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Originally Posted by blahblahblah5038

where is this that you can farm that good?

holy crap that's awesome

Mineral Springs, go through Tascas from granite citadel to get there. Lots of maps and info in this thread.

krytas · Apr 15, 2006, 11:51 PM // 23:51

Well after the long debate about which way to run, north or south, i've decided south. For the first reason i don't go throught a mob of 4 avicaras, and second when i die from some stupid reason at the cave, i don't go spawning at the start of mineral springs.
Also theres something i wanna bring up about bad avicara spawns, i've found that with enough pulling and patience you can kill the avicara groups that tend to spawn with the ice imps. After running i've noticed that theres sometimes a lone avicara chasing you forever, and thats the key to beating em. First, aggro them all and use sprint and charge at the same time once, once a spellcaster has just used a spell, with a bit of luck you got a follower for life. Of course this takes at least 15 minutes to kill them all, but i just can't stand running again ^^
well i'm done saying what i need, otherwise great build kvndoom.

Llednar · Apr 16, 2006, 01:43 AM // 01:43

Well I've managed to do this run with very basic gear.

I find the drop rate is much better with favor and the blessings help insanely...

Tundra Giants-Kill them, or just run, I haven't died on them
Ele Boss-Sit there, heal, wait for Iron Mist to die off
Persistent Avicara-Kill them.

I have all minor runes,Droks Plate,and a Victos Axe...
If i can do that run with THAT then you people should have no problem.